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Post by Chronos on Aug 3, 2019 15:33:46 GMT
Do i have to ask a question. I already know who im voting.
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Post by Amaterasu on Aug 3, 2019 15:40:06 GMT
Do i have to ask a question. I already know who im voting. I think you have to.
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Post by Chronos on Aug 3, 2019 15:42:42 GMT
Ok. Your answers to these questions won’t sway my mind at all unless they are that god damn awful but:
To all of you: Who do you think overall should have won the game/been in the f3?
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Post by Heimdall on Aug 3, 2019 15:44:14 GMT
Ok. Your answers to these questions won’t sway my mind at all unless they are that god damn awful but: To all of you: Who do you think overall should have won the game/been in the f3? Me. If we’re not counting me as an answer, Izanami really should’ve been here. (Winning the game is a different story)
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 3, 2019 15:50:55 GMT
Ok. Your answers to these questions won’t sway my mind at all unless they are that god damn awful but: To all of you: Who do you think overall should have won the game/been in the f3? Honestly, Typhon should be here instead of me. Gods know I don't have a snow ball's chance in hel at winning this, let alone compete.
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Post by Amaterasu on Aug 3, 2019 15:51:55 GMT
Ok. Your answers to these questions won’t sway my mind at all unless they are that god damn awful but: To all of you: Who do you think overall should have won the game/been in the f3? Typhon and Izanami should've been in the F3. Who should win should be decided by the jurors.
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Post by Amaterasu on Aug 3, 2019 17:53:46 GMT
IMO Heimdall would've been in a much better position if their clan didn't hate each other.
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Post by Loki on Aug 3, 2019 17:56:10 GMT
Alright lads, glad to see my fellow Last Hope members in the Final 3, which honestly I didn't expect at all considering most of the chaos and destruction involved numerous members in that alliance, including myself of course. The stereotype in that villains never win definitely sticks true here, as I think the three of you are very heroic players and you managed to take down many of the snakiest snakes like myself, Dionysus and Izanami.
But anyways, I have some nice, juicy questions for the three of you - but just to warn you, how you answer these questions, and all of the previous and yet to come included, will most likely be the deciding factor of my vote because I respect a wide range of strategies if it gets you to the end. For me however, it's the presentation of your strategies and how much factors like luck, events out of your control, mistakes and social likability come into play which sways my vote one way or another.
For Heimdall - I'm surprised you're still in the game. You had a huge target on your back for a lot of the merge, and you're still here, so I applaud you for that. However, my question is, if Dionysus never told Amaterasu about my idol and unintentionally destroyed my game, do you think you would have been blindsided at the Final 8 Tribal Council?
For Amaterasu - I'm... also surprised you're still in the game. I thought you were done and dusted at Final 4 once Heimdall won immunity. For you, I have a relatively similar question, if there wasn't a Fenrir in this game, or somebody who was going to use the loyalty card to plead their case in the FTC for that matter, do you think you would be at the Final 3 right now?
For Fenrir - I never heard much from you. You were just the quiet guy who didn't do a lot, so I respect you for saying that it was your intentional strategy for getting to the end. My question for you is, why is your game less flawed than Heimdall and Amaterasu's game?
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Post by Osiris on Aug 3, 2019 17:56:12 GMT
I've sorta already made up my mind and I really don't have any question left. Nevertheless I'll open the floor and if anyone wanna make a final effort (in addition to the final speech of course) to sway me to vote them then it is now the time to do so.
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Post by Amaterasu on Aug 3, 2019 18:01:28 GMT
For Amaterasu - I'm... also surprised you're still in the game. I thought you were done and dusted at Final 4 once Heimdall won immunity. For you, I have a relatively similar question, if there wasn't a Fenrir in this game, or somebody who was going to use the loyalty card to plead their case in the FTC for that matter, do you think you would be at the Final 3 right now? Probably not. Having a loyal partner helped me a ton, and honestly one of the biggest factors of me being here is the coordination we had amongst our clan, the Jutes. Having clanmates helped going through the Olympian phase smoothly and having loyal connections to survive the merge. I was never going to betray Fenrir so it isn't surprising that he would never betray me. It's a two-sided deal.
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Post by Amaterasu on Aug 3, 2019 18:06:41 GMT
Was Izanami really a snake? I didn't get that impression at all.
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Post by Dionysus on Aug 3, 2019 18:11:57 GMT
Fenrir-Lets be frank. You aren't getting my vote. No one wants to see a winner who has done nothing at all this entire game. No one viewed you as a threat to begin with. Even the worst of the Survivor winners still had done something. Honestly, throwing challenges can be a good thing, IF you are playing more of a social game. But you weren't. You were just there. A floater. And you know what, I don't think you did enough to even be here.
Amaterasu-I first want to say sorry for going against the 6 person alliance. It was just hard for me to see myself working with some of the Olympians after one of my closest allies were voted out. Now at first, I wanted to give you all the benefit of the doubt. But after you told me that you did it to save the "fifth" member of the 4 player alliance, thats where my distrust of you started. Now with that over with. I want to say something. You were good at adapting to your surroundings to fit your needs. The alliance with Heimdall was unexpected and really threw me off. Before the tribal council, I created a thread where we could talk about the potential final 3 and I was surprised on what everyone had to say about how you interacted with them. But even then, you took advantage of each situations when you can and in your FTC speech, you even owned up to your mistakes. You honestly played a great game. Now looking at the game in a different perspective, I resend my statement about you not having a chance to win. My only question is, had I not have gone against the 6 player alliance, what do you think the outcome would have been like?
Heimdall-Despite the "attempt on your life several times" and "you finally taking me out instead", working with you was a blast. And to be honest, you played the game well. You were the perfect villain in all honestly. Anyone who dissented against your alliance and your viewpoints were sent to the chopping block. My question for you is, What happened to that 4 person alliance. I understand the game changes in so many ways but I am just wanting to know what that catalyst was.
Now between both Amaterasu and Heimdall, I still haven't chosen who I am going to vote. I look forward to picking apart your speeches some more and good luck. (I am sorry I wasn't as hard as you initially thought. Kind of a let down to be honest but I am not that much of an asshole to just publicly roast you two at the final moments of the game.)
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Post by Heimdall on Aug 3, 2019 18:13:16 GMT
Loki, my answer is absolutely not. Your only chance was if Chronos didn’t tell us about your alliance with Izanami and Dionysus. Not telling me about your idol also would’ve helped too, lol. I just planned around the damn thing. The plan was originally to blindside Dio, because he was a royal pain in the neck. Sorry, but it’s true. We had it set originally with us telling you we were voting Osiris, so you played the idol on him and flushed it. That, or didn’t play it at all. Didn’t give a damn either way, lol. Then Amaterasu told the whole Last Hope alliance that the plan was Dio, so we switched to you and that was that.
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Post by Dionysus on Aug 3, 2019 18:14:03 GMT
snakiest snakes like myself, Dionysus and Izanami (hiss)
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Post by Amaterasu on Aug 3, 2019 18:18:21 GMT
Amaterasu-I first want to say sorry for going against the 6 person alliance. It was just hard for me to see myself working with some of the Olympians after one of my closest allies were voted out. Now at first, I wanted to give you all the benefit of the doubt. But after you told me that you did it to save the "fifth" member of the 4 player alliance, thats where my distrust of you started. Now with that over with. I want to say something. You were good at adapting to your surroundings to fit your needs. The alliance with Heimdall was unexpected and really threw me off. Before the tribal council, I created a thread where we could talk about the potential final 3 and I was surprised on what everyone had to say about how you interacted with them. But even then, you took advantage of each situations when you can and in your FTC speech, you even owned up to your mistakes. You honestly played a great game. Now looking at the game in a different perspective, I resend my statement about you not having a chance to win. My only question is, had I not have gone against the 6 player alliance, what do you think the outcome would have been like? That's alright. My naiveness was what caused all this to go wrong - betraying isn't uncommon in Survivor and I will not blame you for this. But who were your closest allies? Pele? Zeus? Thank you! I appreciate it. Well, if you went along with us, and if Izanami stayed with us too which I think would be the case, we all would get to F6, you and Izanami would get voted out, then Zeus and me, Typhon and Fenrir would be in F3 probably. So you did the right thing by not going with us.
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Post by Heimdall on Aug 3, 2019 18:20:46 GMT
DionysusHoo boy, Quartet. I doubt you care about it’s origins, but I can elaborate on that if you want. The deal was that you just snitched on us, and we got wind of it. I remember Chronos coming to me with spicy drama, saying you had leaked everything I said to Izanami, Zeus and Amaterasu, and that was that. You were dead to me. Told the other two that your allegiances lay with Vanaheim, and while we tried to keep Quartet alive with some bullshittery, we just split into Thirdet for convenience and set to kill you.
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Post by Erebus on Aug 3, 2019 18:23:31 GMT
DionysusHoo boy, Quartet. I doubt you care about it’s origins, but I can elaborate on that if you want. The deal was that you just snitched on us, and we got wind of it. I remember Chronos coming to me with spicy drama, saying you had leaked everything I said to Izanami, Zeus and Amaterasu, and that was that. You were dead to me. Told the other two that your allegiances lay with Vanaheim, and while we tried to keep Quartet alive with some bullshittery, we just split into Thirdet for convenience and set to kill you. Fun times m'dood Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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Post by Dionysus on Aug 3, 2019 18:24:44 GMT
Dionysus Hoo boy, Quartet. I doubt you care about it’s origins, but I can elaborate on that if you want. The deal was that you just snitched on us, and we got wind of it. I remember Chronos coming to me with spicy drama, saying you had leaked everything I said to Izanami, Zeus and Amaterasu, and that was that. You were dead to me. Told the other two that your allegiances lay with Vanaheim, and while we tried to keep Quartet alive with some bullshittery, we just split into Thirdet for convenience and set to kill you. Fun times m'dood Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Fun times indeed.
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Post by Loki on Aug 3, 2019 18:24:45 GMT
Was Izanami really a snake? I didn't get that impression at all. The main reason I got that impression was because I found out about that 6 person alliance from them.
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Post by Heimdall on Aug 3, 2019 18:25:48 GMT
Was Izanami really a snake? I didn't get that impression at all. I’d call it guilt by association. I know she leaked the True Titans to you, but otherwise nothing. None of my old alliance really talked to her outside of obligatory clan discussion, so we didn’t know her all that well. Since she and Dio were inseparable and Dio was the fattest snake around, we just painted her with the same brush - nobody cared enough to tell the difference.
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Post by Dionysus on Aug 3, 2019 18:26:57 GMT
Amaterasu-I first want to say sorry for going against the 6 person alliance. It was just hard for me to see myself working with some of the Olympians after one of my closest allies were voted out. Now at first, I wanted to give you all the benefit of the doubt. But after you told me that you did it to save the "fifth" member of the 4 player alliance, thats where my distrust of you started. Now with that over with. I want to say something. You were good at adapting to your surroundings to fit your needs. The alliance with Heimdall was unexpected and really threw me off. Before the tribal council, I created a thread where we could talk about the potential final 3 and I was surprised on what everyone had to say about how you interacted with them. But even then, you took advantage of each situations when you can and in your FTC speech, you even owned up to your mistakes. You honestly played a great game. Now looking at the game in a different perspective, I resend my statement about you not having a chance to win. My only question is, had I not have gone against the 6 player alliance, what do you think the outcome would have been like? That's alright. My naiveness was what caused all this to go wrong - betraying isn't uncommon in Survivor and I will not blame you for this. But who were your closest allies? Pele? Zeus? Thank you! I appreciate it. Well, if you went along with us, and if Izanami stayed with us too which I think would be the case, we all would get to F6, you and Izanami would get voted out, then Zeus and me, Typhon and Fenrir would be in F3 probably. So you did the right thing by not going with us. My closest ally was indeed Pele as she was the one that not only helped me with the rest of the Vanaheim alliance, along with Izanami, but I believe was the foundation of the original 4.
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Post by Amaterasu on Aug 3, 2019 18:33:57 GMT
Ah, okay. Then Izanami isn't as evil as everyone is saying. Maybe she was a snake to only selective people, she was nice and loyal to me.
Pele had to be eliminated, she was a pretty big threat. Didn't want a player like that post-merge.
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Post by Typhon on Aug 3, 2019 18:37:20 GMT
Ah, okay. Then Izanami isn't as evil as everyone is saying. Maybe she was a snake to only selective people, she was nice and loyal to me. Pele had to be eliminated, she was a pretty big threat. Didn't want a player like that post-merge. That may not have happened if you did not appear so close to her. I did privately message Fenrir that I was unsure what to do about you, Zeus and Pele as you claimed to all be in an alliance at an earlier point. I then started pushing for her vote in the clan chat. And if ou did not appear so close to her we probably would have gone to merge with Pele instead of Zeus and all been eliminated a lot quicker.
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Post by Amaterasu on Aug 3, 2019 18:50:31 GMT
You wanted to keep Pele around more than Zeus? (not counting my connections)
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Post by Heimdall on Aug 3, 2019 18:52:36 GMT
Dionysus Hoo boy, Quartet. I doubt you care about it’s origins, but I can elaborate on that if you want. The deal was that you just snitched on us, and we got wind of it. I remember Chronos coming to me with spicy drama, saying you had leaked everything I said to Izanami, Zeus and Amaterasu, and that was that. You were dead to me. Told the other two that your allegiances lay with Vanaheim, and while we tried to keep Quartet alive with some bullshittery, we just split into Thirdet for convenience and set to kill you. Fun times m'dood Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Fun times. That was some good shit.
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Post by Typhon on Aug 3, 2019 18:53:27 GMT
You wanted to keep Pele around more than Zeus? (not counting my connections) I probably would have let them act like they were in control, not piss them off and tried to convince you guys that we use it to go in to merge as smaller threats.
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Post by Amaterasu on Aug 3, 2019 18:58:48 GMT
Ahh, makes sense. Alright.
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 3, 2019 19:22:28 GMT
For Fenrir - I never heard much from you. You were just the quiet guy who didn't do a lot, so I respect you for saying that it was your intentional strategy for getting to the end. My question for you is, why is your game less flawed than Heimdall and Amaterasu's game? It's not, let's be honest here. My strategy destroyed what little favor I had with the jury by hiding under the radar. All I have going for me is my loyalty to Jutes and my survivability, while Heimdall repeatedly saved himself through challenges and Amaterasu controlled most of the alliances in the game. I was mostly just there to make sure they didn't die before they could carry me to the f3, and to keep an eye out for rumors. Fenrir-Lets be frank. You aren't getting my vote. No one wants to see a winner who has done nothing at all this entire game. No one viewed you as a threat to begin with. Even the worst of the Survivor winners still had done something. Honestly, throwing challenges can be a good thing, IF you are playing more of a social game. But you weren't. You were just there. A floater. And you know what, I don't think you did enough to even be here. I did have a social game. It's just that, unlike you, I knew when to keep my mouth shut.
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Post by Amaterasu on Aug 3, 2019 19:33:01 GMT
Dayum, what a savage.
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Post by Amaterasu on Aug 3, 2019 19:45:58 GMT
Hey Izanami, I see you online.
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